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Person A: [gets down on one knee]
Person B: Oh my god, it’s finally happening!
Person A: [falls over]
Person B: The poison is kicking in!
#source: unknown#incorrect quotes#imagine your otp#imagine your notp#incorrect quotes ideas#incorrect quotes prompts#classic quotes 
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"We want different things. For example, I want someone else, and you want me" actually works so well as a way to turn somebody down when you aren't into them to begin with
Okay. So. Pizza Hut has a bonkers Valentine's Day PR stunt called "goodbye pies" where you can send someone a pizza to break up with them.
Sure. Fine. Capitalists gonna capitalism. Whatever.
BUT!
The website they created for the whole thing has a breakup excuse generator? And some of these things are actually funny.
We want different things. For example, I want someone else, and you want me.
I need to spend more time with my pet tarantula, and on an unrelated note I never learned how to love.
I know you're just using me to reach high stuff in your apartment.
So yeah, if anyone's writing break up stories for Valentine's Day, here are some free prompts?
Please note: the font on that website is horrendous, so I recommend making use of the accessibility features.
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That abomination vid still exists under my ship's tag for fvcks sake
#imagine the most disgusting vid of your notp humiliating your fave and the tag of your otp just cutely added to it <3#to make sure you see it everytime you scroll past it <3#and notp is also adult x minor as well pick a struggle 🤢🤢🤢
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Fandom Ask Game!
Some are specific to writers or artists, but I made sure to include questions for everyone!
OTP?
OT3?
NoTP?
Is there a popular pairing you don't necessarily dislike but aren't too invested in?
Out of all your fanworks that include [character], which is your favourite?
Show us a bit of a WIP!
Is there a piece of clothing you think [character] is particularly fond of/that you imagine them wearing a lot or like to draw them in?
How did you come up with the title to [insert fic]?
Write a recommendation of someone else's fic you enjoyed!
What's your favourite piece of fanart for [character]?
What's your favourite piece of fanart for [ship]?
What's the funniest or craziest AU idea you've ever come up with?
What's a character or ship you haven't written/drawn yet but would like to some day?
Is there a character or ship you were so sure you would never write/draw but now you've changed your mind?
Have you noticed your style change over time?
Do people irl know you participate in fandom?
What's a book, movie, or show you think [character] would like?
Type [charater]'s name and tell us what the autocomplete suggests as the next word
What's your favourite thing about [fandom] (the people in it, not the media you're all enjoying together)?
When did you first join Tumblr? How long was it between that and finding [fandom]?
Go onto your AO3. Which ship have you written for the most? The least? Does this correspond to who you consider your "favourite?"
Give us a headcanon for [character]
Has your favourite character/ship changed over time?
What's your favourite thing about [character]?
What's your least favourite thing [character] said or did?
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i do.
Draw your characters like this
#2 people#looney toons#duck dodger#porky pig#mean#the looney toons show#annoyed#annoyed and happy#short and tall#notp#enemies#draw your ocs#silly#angry#tag your ocs#imagine your ocs#draw your characters like this#drawing prompt#otp#draw your otp#draw your otp like this#tag your otp#otp prompt#draw your ship#draw the otp#OTP Prompts#otp meme#otp things#otp ideas#draw the ocs
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“[Would he] become the Lord of Winterfell? It seemed an easy choice when he thought of it in those terms . . . though if Ygritte had still been alive, it might have been even easier.” - Jon XII ASOS
Part 1 in any crown design series, art by: @nataa.draws on twit
For about a year, I have been thinking about creating a series of artworks with my designs of crowns that either canonically existed in the ASOIAF universe but went without description (Ceryse’s crown, Jaehaera’s crown, Naerys’s crown, etc.) or crowns that could have existed but didn’t due to deaths of the ladies involved or a break in betrothal (the Ygritte one above and a Sansa QOT7K crown, which is what I’m hoping to do after this one). The only problem is, I’m awful at drawing! The design I can get down to the smallest detail and envision it in my head, but it simply doesn’t translate to paper. And because this is a series rather than one piece, it was a bit difficult to find an artist that both drew jewelry like I envisioned and also could make a commitment for an ongoing project. Luckily, I did end up finding Nata, which I was SO happy about because she was somehow able to commit exactly what I was envisioning on paper, and for that I’m so grateful. She is a lovely and talented woman.
I do want to talk about the designs a little bit, because I have been working on it for so long and absolutely in love with it, but I do want to make one thing clear first. This is not necessarily ship art, and the crowns I work with Nata in the future most certainly will not be. (I mean, Jon and Ygritte are my top ship of all time lol, but that’s not the focus of the art and I get why people don’t like her or them together). The relationship between Jon and Ygritte is problematic at best, and the other Queens I have mentioned above have even more abusive relationships with their husbands/betrothed (with the exception of Jaehaera and Aegon III, whose relationship was practically nonexistent and the problematic elements came from the situation and not from either of them individually). The focus of this series is on jewelry and designs that reflect the culture the person is from and their personality, rather than their relationship to their husbands. So I hope even if Ygritte and Jon are your NOTP and/or if you absolutely despise Ygritte, I hope you can still appreciate the art and cultural influences. The art was originally just supposed to include the crown and therefore be up for interpretation of it was Ygritte or Val’s, but I got carried away with the dress design I had thought of and because it was green which goes beautifully with red hair, I went ahead and asked for Nataa to draw Ygritte.
Now that I’ve gotten that out of the way, I can talk about the design, which I’m sooooo excited about. The main idea was the merging of Freefolk and Northern culture, but I still did want to remain relatively true to the 15th to 16th century English time period that ASOIAF is roughly centered around. I understand the idea that Ygritte would never be caught dead in such a thing, but you must understand!!!! Jon designed it for her himself when preparing to ask for her hand. So she grumbled and griped, but was secretly chuffed, so she wears it. From the beginning, the main element that I think Ygritte needed if expected to wear a dress is that she needs lots of furs lining it. Not only because of the cold, but also as a symbol of where she came from the make her feel more comfortable in her skin. The puffs are meant to be general fashion at the time, something more common in the Vale or the Reach, but I imagine that could be more of a Sansa influence on the North. The emeralds’ only purpose is to contrast and compliment Ygritte’s hair and to show the wealth of the dynasty. There are two different weirwood embroideries implemented in the dress design: the one on the top that is by the wolf, which of course represents the Stark dynasty that she has now married into, and the bigger weirwood at the base of the dress which has mammoths walking underneath it. Mammoths are one of the symbols of the Freefolk, and weirwoods are very sacred to both the Northern people and the Freefolk, and their shared religion following the Old Gods. I imagine that when Jon was designing this dress for Ygritte, he was more attentive and involved than men in this universe usually were, and his ultimate goal was her comfort and for her to feel included in her new position instead of feeling like a commodity for Jon and the North.
As for the crown, which was the reason for the commission in the first place, I wanted it to follow the same general design as the King of the North crown. I know there’s lots of different ideas of different crowns Jon could adopt as King of the North instead of somehow either regaining possession of or replicating his brother’s crown, but there were way too many options and it made my head spin, so we’re doing this. So the structure of the crown is the same, but the main difference is that instead of being made of metal, this crown is made of weirwood. Of course, weirwood is very special to both cultures, but I figured that metal wouldn’t impressive Ygritte or her culture as much as weirwood would. Therefore, the texture is very different. There are emeralds around it to compensate the lack of metal and extra agency, and to give the crown more of a feminine look as well as to compliment Ygritte’s hair. The tops of each bar are meant to look white and as if capped by snow. This is meant to symbolize the Beyond the Wall influence and I was also thinking about the Crown of Winter when creating this part of the design. The Crown of Winter was given up by Torrhen Stark when yielding to Aegon the Conqueror. We aren’t given a description of it, but I have always imagined it having those snow caps and generally being mostly white. I’ve thought of Jon bringing back the design of the Crown of Winter, but because we have so little to go off of, I chose for there just to be a small influence included instead of going off nothing and trying to create something from scratch. Lastly, there’s the three engraving in the middle. The two mammoths are meant to show who Ygritte is, where she’s come from. She is a member of the Freefolk, and becoming a Northern Lady is not meant to erase that or get her hide that part of her (not that she’d ever agree to that anyway), but it is a part of her and a part of the future of the North merging together. There’s a wolf in the middle as well, because she’s married in to that family and she is a representation of the Starks. But her and Jon and their resulting family is part Stark, part Freefolk, and both of those cultures are meant to be displayed and remembered. The next generation is a merger of the Freefolk and their ideals, and the the traditions of the North.
Okay, that is all, thank you so much if you read all of this! I loved working on this so much and I want to thank Nata again, because she did an amazing job. I hope this is enjoyable to someone else like it’s enjoyable to me. I think the idea of Ygritte as Queen of the North is hilarious, although probably bad for the health of Northern Lords. I can’t even imagine what unhinged things she would do, or how violent archery practice could become. The only thing I can say in her favor is that I think she would get along great with Rickon and be a good (well depends on what you think a good upbringing is, manners would lack, but I think he would be happy) mother figure to him. They would be the worst duo to terrorize Winterfell. I also like to think that Theon and her, although she would not like him, could build up some sort of beneficial relationship between them and she could help him regain his strength and his love of archery, because that is something they share. Anyway, I’ll see you soonish with my next commission ^_^
#a song of ice and fire#asoiaf#game of thrones#ygritte#Jon Snow#tudor fashion#asoiaf fashion#fashion#valyrianscrolls
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So the scarring discourse is still going.
No, characters keeping scars does not automatically equate to that being torture porn. In this context, fans clearly intend it in a way that says "even if you end up with physical marks, it doesn't diminish you". Or is Aang getting scarred torture porn too? Or do you think things like Mortal Engines movie shrinking the female lead's facial damage to a minimum "spared her of physical trauma"? No, it was afraid of depicting something deemed "ugly" and it's a huge disservice to real people who look like she was described in the book.
The topic was not handled super well in ATLA. Katara's wounds got healed leaving no trace on her, on her psyche nor on how she views Aang which is not just unrealistic, but you can literally feel in the show Katara having to go "no Aang it's ok, I'm fine, you don't have to beat yourself up over it, I'm healed, let it go Aang, it's not your fault," it is too much. It would have been much stronger had the burns left some mark, even a tiny one, because then Aang's reluctance to practice firebending would have made more sense and all characters would have gotten a more solid demonstration that the Avatar can be dangerous too. It would have been a wakeup call to Katara that Aang isn't a completely harmless kid she can always shield and protect. That's character development! This would have been a more powerful moment in the progression of their relationship, especially after they sort it out and Aang learns safe firebending later on, because they'd have a more real problem to overcome rather than just Aang's guilt.
Again, show didn't frame things too cleverly - there's no heightened moment of perhaps Katara being extremely happy that she discovered a part of her lost Southern waterbending heritage (just remember her behaviour with Hama, there's none of that here). The show just removes her wounds, she's confused about the ability, and this leads to Jeong Jeong making a point about how fire is wild and destructive. The whole segment ends with removing the source of the problem (wounds) and is about how evil fire is. Aang ends up being traumatized anyway, he isn't less traumatized because Katara's wounds didn't scar.
The point is - Katara gets nothing character-building out of this event, even though it made her cry and cradle her arms for several minutes on screen. Because of this her burns could be considered torture-porn (slightly). Her discovering healing abilities is not a reward she got exclusively because she suffered the burns, she could have discovered it by accidentally hurting herself, or healing someone else. Imagine if Aang hurt himself by being reckless and Katara discovering she could heal him? What she should have gotten out of specifically being burned by Aang, is a changed view of him. I don't mean her viewing him negatively, but taking a step back and both learning they should be more careful. Who said zutara stans want Katara getting scarred by Aang in order to make Aang a villain in this? He literally cannot be a villain here, he made a big mistake by being careless. It's got nothing to do with zutara. It's not helpful to misinterpret some storytelling tools that have nothing to do with shipping, just to prevent them from creating some later story hooks which could potentially be used in shipping a NOTP. Heck, Katara getting scarred could even be used (with skilled writing) in shipping her with Aang - like zutara fans use Katara being angry at Zuko and expecting him to demonstrate that he wouldn't betray or hurt them again.
And if you have a distaste for two happy friendly characters hurting each other on accident, that's fine, but well I have a scar on my arm from my brother's scratch that happened on accident. These things happen and stories shouldn't be scared of portraying it, especially if later on they show how to make ammends and overcome the problem. I'm not saying "Katara should definitely have kept her scars!!!" I am showing narrative weak points and suggestions how things could have been done differently, what benefits it could have had character-wise and what that might have changed.
#I don't even know how to tag this#atla critical#atla fandom discourse#katara kept her scars#katara should have kept her scars#are these tags for this topic??#anti anti zutara#atla ship wars;
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About mythological ships:
What is your OTP? (favorite romantic/sexual relationship)
What is your BROTP? (favorite platonic relationship)
What is your NOTP? (the opposite of OTP)
You can say more than one in each category if you want
Sure, but it's going to be loooong and there might be some hot takes ahead
OTP
🔹️Patrochilles:I don't need to say what's obvious; but these two own my house, my dog, my soul
Like it's not so much that I think they're perfect for each other, is that I think even when they aren't perfect for each other they still love the other a lot
Besides, I think these two are very interesting Characters on their own right, so a relationship between the two is also very interesting to think about
🔹️Menelaus/Patroclus: I'm sorry, but I know myself and let me tell you, when I have a favorite ship, it always has the character that I don't ship with anyone but the other character, and the character I ship with everyone. So I don't ship Achilles with anyone but Patroclus, and I ship Patroclus with everyone.
So, Idk, I just thought that they must be very close for Menelaus to risk his life to get Patroclus' corpse back. And maybe one day Menelaus will be fed up with Helen and Patroclus will be angry with Achilles and maybe they help each to have a good time 👀
🔹️Briseis/Patroclus: I actually like this as an unrequited love scenario, I imagine Briseis loving Patroclus because he's the only man that has been kind to her in a while, and she doesn't know if it's really love, or if it's her emotions hanging to the one of the few sources of comfort she can find. Like she isn't sure if she would love him if they had meet during times of peace instead of war
Meanwhile, Patroclus just doesn't love her in that way, but he does loves her like a sister, and doesn't want to hurt her feelings either
🔹️Paris/Patroclus: listen, listen, LISTEN, I already said that I ship Patroclus with everyone, and in this case I just thought "Oh, I like Paris, I wished he had someone who didn't treat him like shit and appreciated him" and my brain immediately went "You know who would be amazing at that? That's right, Patroclus because if he can put up with Achilles' shit, he can put up with Paris' shit"
So basically I just want Patroclus to hug Paris against his tits and call him a good boy
🔹️Odysseus/Diomedes: For this I'll explain that I have the headcanon that both Odysseus and Penelope are AroAce and in a QPR
Meanwhile Diomedes is a baby gay who doesn't even know he's gay
So I have the headcanon that Diomedes has a very big crush on Odysseus, and Odysseus of course is like "Oh, this can be useful" and is basically just using Diomedes
🔹️Diomedes/Sthenelus: Like Briseis and Patroclus, I like them more as an unrequited love situation
I imagine Sthenelus being in love with Diomedes since they've met, but Diomedes just doesn't feel the same, he loves his friend, but not like Sthenelus would like him to
🔹️Agamemnon/Clytemenestra:
They are the same, to all the people that says that Agamemnon deserved it, so did Clytemenestra when Orestes killed her
Like, Clytemenestra was angry because it was HER daughter, but later she doesn't has any problem in killing someone else's daughter (Cassandra) So I know for a fact that had Agamemnon and Clytemenestra change places at Aulis, she would've done the same to Iphigenia
So this is a case of unlovable hand in unlovable hand lol
🔹️Peleus/Menoetius: I have nothing to say about this one except that for me is what if Patrochilles but old man yaoi
🔹️Helen/Andromache: this but in a toxic Yuri kind of way where Andromache feels guilty for cheating on Hector but not enough to actually stop and Helen is in for the fun
BROTP
🔹️Odysseus&Penelope: controversial opinion, but like I said, I think they both are AroAce that one day found each other and immediately there was a mutual understanding. So basically they're in a QPR
They want to be together because for them there's just nobody else in the world who can understand them like the other, and sometimes friendship is more powerful and long-lasting than romantic love
🔹️Achilles&BigAjax: I just like them being cousins
I have this headcanon that sometimes during battle Achilles would get up on Ajax' shoulders and then use him as a platform to jump and attack the Trojans lmao
🔹️Automedon&Patroclus: If Patroclus had to be Achilles's nanny, I think Automedon was Patroclus's nanny lmao
Like in my headcanon Automedon is a couple of years older than Patroclus, so Patroclus always goes to him when he wants advice or to complain about Achilles. And Automedon is more than happy to help him and be his older brother
🔹️Menelaus&Agamemnon: I think Agamemnon unironically cares a lot for his brother, and would try to protect him and do everything he can for him
🔹️Hector&Paris: I imagine these two have the relationship of "I hate you, but you ARE my brother"
🔹️Achilles&Odysseus: I love the idea of these two being friends.
I imagine at first Odysseus was like "I'm going to get close to Achilles so I can use him later" but then the dad instincts won, and he started to see him not as the best of the Greeks, but as a young man. And he starts thinking about that maybe Telemachus would be like him one day when he grows up
So he gets too attached and gives him good advice in different things, and of course Achilles doesn't listen to him at all, but he does appreciate the effort and they end up being close friends
🔹️Briseis&Iphis&Diomede: I just love the idea of Achilles' enslaved women being friends and supporting each other, they didn't have much, but they did have each other 🥺
NOTPs:
🔹️Achilles/Briseis: No, never, nope
Like, maybe if every freaking retelling of the iliad wouldn't try to force them to be together with the less chemistry imaginable and making Achilles forget that Patroclus even exist which in turns makes the whole story of the Iliad have no sense, I would like them more, but no
🔹️Achilles/Agamemnon: Short answer? No. Long answer? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
🔹️Poseidon/Patroclus: I'm sorry guys, I don't mess with this. Is just that personally I think the gods just see the humans as toys for their entertainment. So I imagine that if there was any relationship between these two, Poseidon would pretty much treat Patroclus as his personal sex toy, And I like my boy Patroclus too much for him to being used like that
🔹️Apollo/Cassandra: similar to Achilles/Briseis and Poseidon/Patroclus, with the added bonus that I think Apolla was a bitch with Cassandra. Like you can argue that Achilles deserved Apollo’s hate, but not Cassandra
#ramblings#tagamemnon#greek mythology#the iliad#trojan war#I'm tagging everything idc#patrochilles#odypen#odydio#achilles#patroclus#agamemnon#menelaus#helen of sparta#andromache of troy#hector of troy#Paris#paris of troy#briseis#odysseus#odysseus of ithaca#penelope of ithaca#diomedes#diomedes of argos#Apollo#clytemnestra#big ajax#automedon#cassandra of troy
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I know what your mythological otp is, but do you have a brotp and a notp?
BROTPs
I have some brotps though not that many, mainly because if there's a pair of fictional dudes that are just reaaaally close and always have each other's backs and everything I just imagine them secretly or not so secretly boning LMAO (I have a gremlin brain sorry) but here's what comes to mind:
Odysseus & Diomedes: I love reading their Iliad shenanigans and they also have great chemistry in TSOA so I always imagine them as this pair of friends that always have the absolute worst ideas to get everyone in trouble lolol.
Achilles & Ajax: they're technically cousins but I still love thinking about their friendship and how much respect and rapport there is between them. Some sources have them both training under Chiron, and also in the Iliad Ajax is basically the only person Achilles really listens to during the embassy scene.
Patroclus & Menelaus: this is one of those cases where I imagine them being friends and also boning LMAO but the fact that Menelaus fought so hard to keep Patroclus' body from the Trojans always makes me think that the two must have been quite close. I do actually think that they might have had a lot in common!
Also also this is pure headcanon territory but I'm really enjoying writing Patroclus' and Automedon's friendship in my fic As Fate Would Have It! I always imagined those two would spend plenty of time together, as Achilles' therapon and his trusted charioteer, so it's really fun to write them together now 😁
NOTPs
I honestly don't have many notps in general, I can’t think of a pairing that makes me so uncomfortable or something that I would never be able to consider it. But there are some that I just don't enjoy very much or that don't interest me.
Basically anything with Zeus is an instant no-no for me lmao I just don't like the dude at all 🤣 it's not even the non con aspect that features in pretty much EVERY pairing he's in, it's just... idk, the male entitlement of it all truly doesn't appeal to me. I don't want to know what he's up to and I'm not sure I'd read a story about any of his escapades (i.e. him chasing young girls and boys around and ruining their lives for fun 🙄)
Helen/ Paris: this is another pairing I can't see in a favourable light. I feel like it's pretty clear in the Iliad that Helen doesn't really like him and is miserable in Troy, and when she is shown to go to bed with him it's because Aphrodite threatens her and twists her arm to do it. I believe that there are interesting layers to their relationship and that there's a lot to consider here, but I probably wouldn't seek out any cutesy shippy content with those two. (But if we're talking about a Paris/Helen/Menelaus... now that's a different story 👀 haha)
Thank you so much for this ask!
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hm mrs kageyama perhaps?
Sexuality Headcanon:
straight "overenthusiastic ally" mom
Gender Headcanon:
cis "overenthusiastic ally" mom
A ship I have with said character:
her husband :-)
A BROTP I have with said character:
hmmmm i actually think she and reigen would get along pretty well. like ah yes the nice young man who's helping my son with his powers. i hope he's having a good day :-)
A NOTP I have with said character:
not really any i can think of?
A random headcanon:
listen somewhere in my heart and soul i know she could have OCD swag.
General Opinion over said character:
ditto for mr kageyama i think shes just a nice normal mom and people are taking her chastising her kids in like. the worst faith reading imaginable. like yeah comparing your kids can certainly give them complexes but "be more like your brother" in reference to the fact that said brother does not regularly destroy silverware is a pretty reasonable thing to say for a parent i think?????
#so many of the general opinions on more minor characters are me responding to levels of discourse you cant imagine#and im sorry
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Person A: Where are you going?
Person B, getting up and leaving: Life’s too short to waste it on you.
#source: seinfeld#incorrect quotes#incorrect quotes ideas#incorrect quotes prompts#imagine your notp
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This is probably a weird take. And quite a hot one. I don't think people will agree with at all😭 but since it's been in my head I gotta vomit it lmao
The thing is, from what I see through out the game, it seems like the dev tried to make every characters at least interact, right? Like for example, the birthday duo cards, or the Halloween events with massive cast of random students. Of ALL the connection these 22 students has, It just feels... Weird... That there's no canon ship? I might be wrong with this coz 1) I know the game had to be 'neutral' in order to scoop up as much as audience they can (and this game is like, already 4 years old so it would be quite a big jump from the current content they had.) 2) those attempts in making the characters interact cannot be interpreted as canon since it's probably not from the game's main timeline.
I do have my OTP and NOTP, but honestly idc about that. For a game cathered for female audience, seems like a canon yaoi (lmao) won't really hurt the market? And especially since the yumebait itself is also very plain compared to other joseimuke games? Idk at this point I'm just yapping
So yeah my take I wish there's romantic canon x canon content between the main characters, yes between the 22 MAIN STUDENTS, not staff nor NPC. Just one ship is enough lol thank uuu
I think most people would just disagree on which ship should sail.
Personally, I'm a fan of TWST keeping ships out of the canon. If it's not a dating sim I don't really want to see the characters that would be otherwise romanceable in an otome game getting romantic with each other. For me that would be depressing.
On a meta note, keeping ships from being canon while doing their best to set up as many valid pairs as possible casts the net for appeal as wide as it can be for the obvious target audience of fujoshi. Furthermore, by not making anything canon people who would otherwise not want to play a game with such a bishie loaded cast might still take an interest, and no shippers feel snubbed by having their pairing not work out in a game that otherwise snubs romance entirely. Keeping ships out of the canon is more or less the safest play TWST can make. Is it lame like that? Yep. But that's how a Disney based game is going to play it to try and max playability and appeal to get those sweet sweet microtransactions. . .
. . .and this is not counting the disasters I imagine would happen in the fandom if one ship got confirmed over another. . .*shudders* Trust me, it's better this way.
I totally feel you on the yumebait though. Unfortunately that also falls into the meta category of trying to keep things a little on the downlow. It's probably supposed to avoid making people who don't usually play visual novel style games uncomfortable or something along those lines. Also they really don't want to be confused with a dating sim, so they can't have the characters flirting with us too much. Which is a crying shame. I pine for the romance elements too. I really, really do. I respect the decision to keep them out of the game though, even if it leaves a hole in my heart.
Thank you for your take!
#twst#twisted wonderland#twst hot takes#hot take#twst hot take#ask response#shipping take#shipping#now get ready for people to argue about why twst should or should not have been a dating sim#romance#yumebait#meta commentary#game design
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I still think about this a lot, partly because of what you mentioned and partly because I stumbled upon one of my own recently.
But I think we would benefit a lot from NOTP being reintroduced to the vocabulary, because in the same way that sometimes you see two characters and something clicks and you start shipping them and some are so special that they become OTPs that you can't keep quiet about, the other extreme is NOTP.
SíIt just doesn't click, it doesn't compute, it's unpleasant to the point of deep, vice-like hatred. You can't stand it, you don't want to see it, you don't want to remember that that ship exists because at best it puts you in a bad mood and at worst it makes you angry, you may not even know the reason or have a reason that may sound "rational" to others. You just hate him with every fiber of your being.
And that's fine! It seems that sometimes people expect you to oppose ships for some higher or moral reason 🙏🏻😇 but having a NOTP is not the same as being a specific Anti ship. The Anti ship KNOW why they don't like that particular ship, the softer ones will simply want to say "I don't like them and this is the list" and the harsher ones actually want to convince the fans of that ship are wrong for seeing them together.
When You have a NOTP you would be the happiest person in the world if you just didn't trip over it, that's all, it's a simple limit. That ship? No, no, a thousand times no. Because? Just NO.
Mine is a crack ship with very few fans, I can't imagine how hard it is to avoid yours even by blocking it ☹️
(not related to what I'm sending you, but I can't just finish without mentioning that your art and your AUs give me LIFE, they are wonderful, thank you for sharing them 🥰🥰🥰🥰)
I AGREE WITH EVERY FUCKING WORD!
especially this
SíIt just doesn't click, it doesn't compute, it's unpleasant to the point of deep, vice-like hatred. You can't stand it, you don't want to see it, you don't want to remember that that ship exists because at best it puts you in a bad mood and at worst it makes you angry, you may not even know the reason or have a reason that may sound "rational" to others. You just hate him with every fiber of your being.
LIKE OMG?? HOW TF YOU MANAGED TO DESCRIBE EVERYTHING SO PERFECTLY?
NOTP is still pretty much in my personal vocabulary, but yes, we need to make it more common thing again.
And yeah, avoiding this is hard. I wish blocking tags worked better, i wish it didn't put a gaint label on the post like "LOOK, HERE'S THE THING YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE, YOU DON'T SEE IT BUT WE LETTING YOU KNOW THAT IT'S PRETTY MUCH STILL HERE"
NO, JUST GET THAT AWAY FROM ME?? I DON'T WANT A REMINDER THANK YOU VERY MUCH! Just delete this from my existance god damn it tumblr is it so hard??
but i guess it's still better than nothing, in most other social media we don't get even something like ths (at least those i use)
phew, i'm so happy that there are people who UNDERSTAND
(not related to what I'm sending you, but I can't just finish without mentioning that your art and your AUs give me LIFE, they are wonderful, thank you for sharing them 🥰🥰🥰🥰)
and thank you so so much!! 💖💖🥺
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This was on a reblog of a fic concept someone added one of my posts but I decided it was risking backlash against the person, and also it ended up half vent post, so just tucking it into its own little post here instead.
I'm glad you're enjoying this, but... Okay, actually, I'm really sorry but this goes against what I was thinking with this post in a lot of ways. I know you didn't intend any malice, but I just. I cannot not talk about this right now. I need people to know to just... not do this to my posts. Because it keeps happening.
I do know which "the younger person should be the sugar daddy, like they made an app or something" post you're thinking about, and i'ts a good post, but that is 100% an Obikin plot. Cody is not a guy to make a super successful app. That is an Anakin thing. In that respect, this is an Obikin fic in Cod*Wan clothing. I mean, I've talked about wanting people to do more Obikin plots in Cod*Wan, but that's about exploring the age difference and power dynamics, not Cody Is A Tech Whiz.
A billion is too much. The only, only ethical ways to get to billionaire status are 'lottery' and 'relative I never heard of just died and left me everything.' In both cases, the only ethical way to proceed is to invest enough to live off of comfortably, and donate the rest. If an app makes that much money? The app is screwing someone over.
I also cannot imagine Obi-Wan in the financial industries sector unless he absolutely loathes his job or is an auditor who delights in making Rich People's Lives Miserable. Better option would be that Obi-Wan is the president of a charity that Cody partners with, like the CEO of a Free Housing For The Homeless initiative or a big name lawyer in an activist lobby for environmentalism or something. This might just be my "I am a business major who hates the business major norms" and look at financial services industry types with uhhhh distaste. If he's a financial advisor, it is for a nonprofit. At most, he is part of a company that specializes in helping rich people funnel their money into charitable ventures.
This also just doesn't fight my envisioning of either Obi-Wan or Cody.
I do need to throw in that my first thought reading this was my Codakin version where Cody wins the lottery and Anakin is the sugar baby. It's not that similar, but the vibes were there (for me).
Finally, it's just... the point of this post is that I find it frustrating when people make Cody the same age because I find it disingenuous to flatten the power dynamic. Some people do it fine, are multi-shippers who are as honest about Cod*Wan as they are with something like Obikin. If they have one fic where Cod*Wan are the same age with no power diff, and another where the power dynamic is flipped, and a third where the power dynamic is as in canon and just explored as necessary, that's fine.
But with the number of Cod*wan (and Barr*ssoka, which is full on NOTP for me as a direct result of this behavior, despite having a canon age diff of 4yrs) folk that have talked shit to and about me and mine for doing something similar with ships like Rexsoka or Obikin... The amount of shit I've had to deal with for shipping Rexsoka for adjusting ages in a modern AU, coming from people who do the same thing with Cod*Wan, is the driving force of this post. It's basically this: If I don't get to change the ages a bit to make things palatable, then neither does anyone else.
This is not just about the age difference. It's about looking at canon and going 'if you guys are going to give me shit for my ship, then play it straight on your end. What does it look like when you're honest about the power dynamic?
There is a reason my first suggestion is Cody having a crush on his boss.
The intent was always that Obi-Wan is the sugar daddy, because Obi-Wan is the General. Because Obi-Wan is the one with power. Because Obi-Wan is the one with control.
Because this post was about "if I don't get to change my ships to make them less problematic, then neither does anyone else."
Also because I just find a lot of Cod*Wan fics to be OOC, and not in the fun way.
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Yet another one for the character meme.
Miquella
The Ask meme
Favourite thing about them:
His downfall. Miquella was not pure and perfect from the beginning, he is just as “cursed” a twin as Malenia. And his subject, the enchanted branch, as well as Trina's plunge into sweet slumber (a lovely illusion of happiness) suggest that their order does not bring bloom and movement of life, but rather stagnation and withering. I love the journey Miquella took, how he tried to bring comfort to his beloved brother and sister, and how he went to hard measures to make things right. No matter what he did, I respect him, because he decided to take matters into his own hands and start taking action
Least favorite thing about them:
An absolutely terrifying and violent future that is envisioned under his reign. Absolutely everyone is valuable, absolutely everyone is loved and everyone is happy. Utopia. And all those who disagree are already rotting in a ditch somewhere
It's not even what I don't like, it's what makes him villain. It's hard to explain. I like his heartless logic because Miquella chose his path and became an individual, but I don't like the core of it
Favorite line:
"Let your thoughts be only of love"
Despite the fact that the context of that phrase is absolutely obnoxious, I like it
brOTP
???
I'm sorry, it's a complete blank. I can't picture Miquella as someone's “friend.” Actually, the only friend (as well as lover) for him is Malenia IMHO. And I can't even imagine Trina as his “friend”. Would Marika and Radagon be friends? Would you be friends with your other half personality, which represents qualities you don't have as your first half? (For me, the answer is no, I don't think I could stand a minute in the company of myself, especially if, say, I was the pragmatic side and the other me was the creative side. That would be awful)
Also, Miquella is almost always officious and “perfect” when talking to people, and when you're pretending to be someone, you can't call it friendship.
OTP
Miquella x Malenia
Sexually, romantically, and mentally, they are right for each other
nOTP
doesn't exist as usual, it's very rare for me to say "no" to a pairing
Random headcanon
If you do somehow break through Miquella's perfect shell and get to his true nature, you will find a very self-assured, pragmatic, wise man, a superb tactician who loves to play chess and sometimes likes to joke around. You will also find that his views and desire to bring salvation to the world (albeit violently) are absolutely sincere. He will look at you as a master looks at a pet. Also, Trina will turn out to be a very sweet but closed lady. Like Miquella, she has good intentions and feels love, but shuns contact and interactions. Her gaze will always be a little condescending.
Unpopular opinion
We are on that point of the fandom, when it's unpopular to say - nice job Fromsoftware, great villain and great dlc, love your game 👍
Song I associate with them:
Lemon Tree - Fools Garden
Favorite picture:
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hello dearest user, i bequeath thee thy questions of thy ships thee likes in mythologia:
OTP of all time? (Thy owes me 20 dollars if thy says Zeus and Hera)
Thy favorite straight or male/female ship/s?
Thy favorite mlm or gay ship/s?
Thy favorite wlw or sapphic ship/s?
Thy ship/s thee likes to analyze but not ship as endgame? (any type)
Thy favorite doomed ship/s?
Thy favorite toxic ship/s?
Thy favorite exes-ship/s?
Thy favorite platonic ship/s? (any type)
Thy favorite OT3/poly ship/s (any type)
NOTP of all time?
Least favorite straight or male/female ship/s?
Least favorite mlm or gay ship/s? 13 Least favorite wlw or sapphic ship/s?
Thy crackships? List them all
**thee can include ships that are of the books or of your own mind. thy hopes thee does not find thy ask annoying
First of all, I love the dedication to the bit??? I don't know how the thee and thys of Old English but you gave me a chuckle XD
(No way will this annoy me. In fact, I will take pleasure in answering this ^^)
OTP of all time? - Zeus/He- *hands you your 20 dollars*
Thy favorite straight or male/female ship/s? - For human ships, it's Menelaus/Helen and Orpheus/Eurydice. For godly ships it's Zeus/Hera and Poseidon/Medusa. All rotate my mind like clockwork. I also love the married godly couples and Ares/Aphrodite.
Thy favorite mlm or gay ship/s? - ORESTES/PYLADES ORESTES/PYLADES SUPREMACY 🗣🗣🗣 Sometimes Patroclus/Achilles. Poseidon/Nerites. (Ares/Hermes for non canon)
Thy favorite wlw or sapphic ship/s? Oh, this is hard... I only have non-canon ones like Metis/Hera, Demeter/Leto, and Eileithyia/Clotho.
Thy ship/s thee likes to analyze but not ship as endgame? (any type) - oh AGAMEMNON/CLYTEMNESTRA takes the cake for that for sure. Their house is so rotten, their kids dead or depressed and their marriage in RUINS but once upon a time everything was okay, and that is what makes it hurt more. Other ships include Rhea/Cronus and maaaybe Apollo/Cassandra.
Thy favorite doomed ship/s? - Orpheus/Eurydice, Hades/Leuke :(
Thy favorite toxic ship/s? - Zeus/Hera, Rhea/Cronus, a bit of Pentheus/Dionysus too hehe.
Thy favorite exes-ship/s? - Poseidon/Pelops, Zeus/Themis, Diomedes/Odysseus (last one is exes best friends and fwbs to me.)
Thy favorite platonic ship/s? (any type) - HECTOR&HELEN AND ODYSSEUS&MENELAUS LETS GO!!! Also, I love the whole brotherhood between the Achean soldiers, yes even including Agamemnon. The Kronides (especially Zeus&Hades and Hera&Poseidon) and the younger Olympians' relationship with each other (too long to add. Its a lot.)
Thy favorite OT3/poly ship/s (any type) - Zeus/Hera/Metis (past) or Zeus/Hera/Prometheus (present but in a Kaos show AU way where Prometheus and Hera are both stressfully dealing with Zeus' shit 100% of the time. Not sure if It's a V-relationship or a whole poly ship but it's fun to imagine).
NOTP of all time? - probably Zeus/Leto or Semele (no hate to shippers).
Least favorite straight or male/female ship/s? - Paris/Helen (again, no hate to the shippers. A matter of preference and I find the influence of Aphrodite/the gods in their relationship way more fascinating than the pairing itself. They're very Curses by Crane Wives coded. In a way they also fit No.5 of your asks lol). Also Hephaestus/Aphrodite and Poseidon/Amphitrite. In a way.
Least favorite mlm or gay ship/s? My mind is blank, my least favorite is Zeus/Ganymede but I'm honestly neutral-positive with the interpretations of Ganymede as an adult.
Least favorite wlw or sapphic ship/s? Medusa/Athena for sure. Eradicate that ship.
Thy crackships? List them all - Hmmm I already mentioned some in No.4... Would love to see Medea/Oenone, Hermione/Electra, and some iteration of Ares/Thanatos/Hermes too. That's all I can think of for now
#what a fun ask nonnie ^^#greek mythology#the iliad#asks#if i tag all the characters mentioned I might die of weariness
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